As a fist step of rebuild my XK A800 from toy to serious GPS glider is replace brushed motor to brushless.
I decide to go to small and light 1306 tinywhoop motor, and as there no way of use folding glider props, 3D printed parts will must be used to fits original props as well as adapter for motor mount.
Motor:
EMAX RS1306 2700KV:
This motor (diameter 16.8mm) together with my 3d printed adapter perfectly fits into fuselage. It is half of the original motor weight but 3x stronger. Also lifetime for a brushless motor should be much longer.
you can buy this motor here: (with few cents for me)
aliexpress | http://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_dSAhWqu |
banggood | https://www.banggood.com/custlink/G33RYbMvZy |
Just to compare original motor and brushlees EMAX:
Weight: 23g original motor with prop ws 16g EMAX
Thrust with 2S lipo: around 50g original motor and around 150g for EMAX
ESC:
FVT LittleBee 20A
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This ESC is probably overkill with max current (20A) but is light (5g) and cheap, bidirectional Dshot can be used, so perfect for that. As A bonus can be hidden in motor holder and cooled by prop air.
you can byu it here:
aliexpress | http://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_dZYEKCU |
banggood | https://www.banggood.com/custlink/KKmhhNUGZ0 |
Motor holder 3D part
This part is designed to fits into fuselage but needs to be glued with some good polystyrene glue.
motor is fixed with 2 M2 20 mm inbus screws and can be released also if part is glued. ESC is placed in the middle and it is cooled by air going true original holes into fuselage.
Prop holder 3D part
This is part to replace original prop holder to possibility to screw it to motor with 2 M2 screws
Glue for polystyrene:
Original A800 propeller:
aliexpress | http://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_dXlHdm4 |
banggood | https://www.banggood.com/custlink/v3mEdNzDeW |
Diagram of connection:
for those who asked for connection description, here you can see diagram of my connection (original electronic is removed and replaced with INAV FC,. If you are not familiar with INAV, I recommend to join INAV discord server for that:
That’s the part list:
body +2x servo http://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_d6GshW2
motor EMAX RS1306 2700KV http://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_dSAhWqu
prop original prop on 3D print http://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_dXlHdm4
servos A800 servo https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_9fbfPc
FC Matek F722-MINISE https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_AOsRe6
GPS BN-180 http://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_d6nwK14
ESC Emax Bullet Series 12A https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_A6F68v
current JMT XT30 60A Current Sensor http://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_d8diLYQ
lipo 2S 18350 10A 1200mAh https://www.nkon.nl/keeppower-imr-18350-1200mah-10a.html
cam Runcam Split 3 Nano whoop http://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_Bf7LQ33G
VTX+5V Matek VTX mini http://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_dX6Ahoq
TBS RX TBS Crossfire NANO RX http://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_dTETgCi
VTX ant FPV 5.8G Clover 3 Blade Transmitting w/ 4 Blade http://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_dVziXqw
LED 3x WS3128 http://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_dZDRIwA
And this is diagram:
Hello Wizzx, I would like to convert the A800 with the components you show. Could you perhaps show a video or pictures of connecting the cables? I don’t understand how to connect it.
Many greetings Sven
Hi Sven,
I just add connection diagram on end of the post. hope it helps
Hello and thank you for the nice description of the upgrade to a brushless motor for the XK a800
I would also like to know how to connect the 2-wire motor connection to the ESC. Does the ESC recognize the output voltage as a speed pulse? How does this work?
Thanks in advance
Nice upgrade.
I am curious though – what did you do on the electronics side to convert the 2-wire motor output from A800 board to required PWM format to ‘drive’ the ESC ?
As far as I know the A800 witing does not use PWM protocol …
Do you have a wiring diagram that shows what youve done with wiring ? The ESC +/- wires will go thru a Y harness straight to battery I guess, how did you wire the ESC servo wires though …
cheers,
Dave
Yeah I would like to know about that too!
Hi Dave, I replaced original flight controller with proper one with Inav firmware and thers output for normal 3 phase ESC (pwm) where motor is connected
Hi Nemrod,
thanks for clicking to my affiliate links
here you can donwload stl files:
https://uloz.to/tamhle/enRoOsEU2z3t
Thanks Wizzx!
I’ve ordered both items via your link. However I’m unable to open the 3D files. Any chance to share them in *.stl or *.obj format please?
Kind Regards
NDW